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7:20am 10-20-2009
Sandy
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Good morning all... I think the camera at the HOG was just not that good of quality, and I can't imagine we have better pictures than the LEOs! When I went to the website that Jessica mentioned http://www.justiceforchandra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3033
I couldn't make head or tails of his pictures! I did sign up at the forum, so they have a way to contact me if they need to.
I need to read up on the holograph stuff!
And Jessica has great ideas! I especially like her idea to check the pings within a certain timeframe. That would certainly limit the number of people you could check out.
I haven't had a chance to work on the 3rd picture, I will try to get that done this evening. Just looking at it, I can't imagine what that other guy sees. He said the suspect is looking over his shoulder back at the car. It looks so small and blurry to me.
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11:21pm 10-19-2009
Bill M
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Good discussion this evening. My question of the day is why have the LEOs not obtained and used better pics than we rank amateurs are producing and posting..it's a mystery to me. And if there is a holograph museum in Paris where you can see yourself holographically, why on earth have they not tried this? Maybe they have, I don't know. Sandra, I have exchanged several notes with one of the female detectives not in OPD. She has been a bit distant, but cordial, and she asked me to ask you to contact her. They are looking at all our stuff but of course will not comment. Jessica, I think your profiling work is also of great value. I have always felt that Jennifer was not the first and may not be the last, but that they just may have changed cities.
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8:46pm 10-19-2009
Jessica
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I was looking up on the internet about Human Sex Traffiking and there seems to be a lot in the Florida Panhandle. Also there was a case about a girl named Shauna from Pensacola who managed to escape and that occured in April 2006. It is worth looking into her description of her captors and it was also a female that coerced her which could make POI a female.
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8:29pm 10-19-2009
Sandy
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Bill M - my better half said not to call that number you gave me, after he read all the accused stuff. No offense I hope. He said call Orlando Police and ask for the detectives names on the case. I did that, and left a message, but the detective did not call back. You did mention that the detectives monitor this site, so I hope they are looking at our pictures on my blog, too!
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8:25pm 10-19-2009
Sandy
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Look at my inverse picture 1 guys... I always thought it looked like he was holding something sharp in his hand. And it sure looks like bike clips or string around that ankle, and it COULD BE a bike helmet!
http://sandy-jenniferkesse.blogspot.com/
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8:20pm 10-19-2009
Sandy
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Jessica - lots of pictures on that website (and ideas), but I can't really make out all the stuff they say they see. I pulled the third pic and I'll work on it. And I'll check out that Oilers logo.
Some ideas from that site: Says he is an armed security guard. Has a leg holster on with a taser and possibly baton. Sees patches on arm sleeve and chest. Has sunglasses on. Bike helmet. Bike patrol guard from a Florida security company? Bike messenger?
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8:02pm 10-19-2009
Jessica
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The logo to me looks like the old Houston Oilers logo.
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7:54pm 10-19-2009
Sandy
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Jessica - I'll take a look at that third image and try to inverse the color. It did say the police no longer believe she tried to mail that phone at night.
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7:49pm 10-19-2009
Jessica
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Sandy there is a third still image available at http://www.justiceforchandra.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3033
I wonder if we can make out some kind of Logo if those are inversed as well. I think she would use her cell phone when traveling through a parking lot to make those "safe calls". If she would of gone out that night to find FEDEX she would of made that safe call to her boyfriend or family. With that said this had to have occured that morning as she was exiting her condo. I feel that her leaving her condo that morning to walk to her car would of not warranted a "safe call". I think if one of those workers were involved that another would of heard about it and turned him in for the reward money. It was as large as 1 million-someone will snitch for that kind of money.
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7:42pm 10-19-2009
Jessica
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I just watched that video also. Is there any way to test Tara Grimstead's abductors DNA with what evidence they have with Jennifer's POI and see if it is not necessarily the same person but of the same race? Also, Kesse family was Jennifer's coffee table usually pushed to the side of the sofa like it indicates in the photos or was it something her brother did while visiting over the weekend?
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7:42pm 10-19-2009
Sandy
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And Jessica - what did you think about the suspect arm logo picture? Does it look like a logo to you? And if so, any ideas on what that could be??
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7:39pm 10-19-2009
Sandy
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Jessica, I am using 3 different photo programs, but I believe the inverse picture is from Roxio.
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7:38pm 10-19-2009
Sandy
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I'm going to recap some of the items from the 48 hours episode. Items I think we have been tossing around. It looks like they went up that staircase and Jennifer's condo was on the second floor. The staircase itself is outdoors. They also mentioned that because Jennifer was concerned about security, she would always talk to someone on her cell, while she was walking from her car to her condo. I don't know if she normally did that as she was leaving for work in the morning. Her mom said her cell phone is typically never off. So when she called Jenn that morning and it went straight to voicemail, she was very concerned. Her luggage was inside her condo door, untouched. By the evening of the day Jenn went missing, the police pinged her phone, but there was no answer. They thought she may have been using FedEx to ship her brother's friend's phone back. There were 9 FexEx places closeby, and they looked for cameras near each one and there weren't any. Her condo door was locked and there was no forced entry, so the police assume she made it out the door. The complaint that Jennifer had against the workers was that they would "stop and stare", her mom said "leering stares". Many of the workers were staying in several of the units at the condo complex. They were allowed to live in the empty units, since only half of the 400+ condos were full. The police could not search each unit, because many of them were privately owned.
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7:20pm 10-19-2009
Jessica
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Bill- I was thinking that her usual call to her boyfriend was during her commute at around 8ish. But she did not ever make that call. I saw in an interview that her boyfriend began calling her that morning but her phone was going straight to voicemail therefore POI had to power off her phone. This would of not occured in that outdoor parking lot nor in her car becuase there would of been evidence of some kind of struggle or things falling out her purse (makeup, wallet, gum, papers any sign of Jennifer) So if POI came upon her as she was exiting he could of literally pushed her right back into her own apartment with some kind of weapon and at that point take her purse and shut off the phone. Sandy what program are you using to inverse the colors.
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6:49pm 10-19-2009
Bill M
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Jessica: I am a bit confused. I thought the last call to or from her cell phone was around 10PM the night before. Are you saying that her phone was ringing even as he abducted her, because somebody's call went straight to voice mail? That he is the one who turned her phone off? (A logical assumption, by the way.) This would fit with the dogs backtracking his scent to Jennifer's apartment, where he surprised her, immobilized her and shut down her phone. But I think it would be far more interesting to find out who called whom from the HOG lot during the parking episode. I am going to copy paste this to the detectives in case they have not been reading today.
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